ill just close my eyes bite the pillow and wait for CCP to finish............. updating the game and balenceing it out like they as aways do. I have faith in them.

Please, stay with HAV's so I can feed you to my AV nades.

if tankers want to quit thats fine with me. more guys on the ground to kill. i'll just miss the rare madrugar rhino fights or the cute little caldari shield tank fights (awe they try at least)

I'll keep my HAV as there are times when just having a warm forge gun isn't enough to satisfy the need to break EVERYTHING.

Prove it.

ill be holding on to my SP untill the game is actually good, not the broken trash we have now

Whoever is saying that "tanks are ******" probably haven't spent more than 5M SP into them....

so the 2nd of May was months before Uprising??

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=734072#post734072

Yup, most of us don't like the +damage skills and would rather see skills that like reduce heat builds and the sorts.

I am on the fence on this one, because the CPM is more worried about the turrets and skills involved with them now than the tank at the moment.

I predict the more expensive glass cannon is not going to fare well on the current battlefields. Also the enforcers where a bit too expensive to obtain in the tournament build.

Help us, Nova Knife, you're our only hope. We don't want to dominate the battlefield we just want to not be cardboard boxes with guns.

BOZ man, need to get all the "good" Tankers on a Chat sometime and work out what needs to be done, forward it to CPM to read through. We need to look at what needs to go, what needs to be added.

You certainly need to dig better, I don't see any proof what so ever.

I just simply stated that Damage +Skills are bad for a FPS game and that Enforcers are agreeably LOL wut? at times because they're so easily popped by a kamikaze LAV demoman and they're certainly not the murader HAVs people loved.

I am sure people would rather want:

Less Heat Per Skill Level on the blasters
Less Spool Per Skill Level on the rail-guns
More Blast Radius per Skill level on missile launchers.

Vs

1% Turret Damage

The core of most HAV's problems is surviving.
The HAVs more than capable killing each other in mere seconds and typically most Tank vs Tank Engagements are done and over with far faster than Infantry vs Infantry engagements.
Why do you want make the damage to go up into the miliseconds?
Why do you want to reward the first tank on the field?
Most of the time the complaints about the tanks from tank pilots have usually always had been involving how short they live against... anything.

So are you going to sit there and lie to me that tank problems are it's damage output? I been reading the forums and its more of the damage input they're mostly complaining about.

If I had been give an either/or problem of:

Increase damage Lose more HP
vs.
Increase HP and lose damage

I'd pick the later provided the rest of the environment doesn't change. Ability to re-engage time after time after time is far more valuable in keeping the investment worth it in a vehicle.

Because the damage output shreds most infantry and other vehicles in seconds or instantly what is an instantly slightly shorter going to change up overall?

So go ahead and lie to me I am wrong. Because if you want to nerf tank HP fine by me, I play AV as well and I am still soloing too many of these tanks.

Yes I know the PG skill is fubar and needs to change back to proving grid instead of shaving ... 1 cpu was it?

Yes I know the Shield and Armor skills changed but I don't want them changed back (because this is now a double stack buff on EHP on every additional plate you throw on.) However I haven't had the time to sit-down and do the math to see if its been stacking penalized.

I'd take this one any day over 1% dmg.